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Conceptual Art by lycanthropeful Conceptual Art by lycanthropeful
I'm sure this will get some flames or disagreements, but that's fine with me. Conceptual art is something that has consistently bothered me, even more so now that I learned all about its variations during the art classes I had to take during my freshman year.

No, I do not think that art is merely something created by someone who is able to draw realistically. Art is so much more than that. It's just when you get these crackpot "artists" who can't find any other way to express an idea than to tie a dog to a wall is when the limitations of human creativity start to worry me.

By the nature of conceptual art's name itself, it is meant to do exactly that: showcase a concept. It's just appalling to me how some of these "artists" can make millions of dollars by hanging a blank canvas in a gallery. Does that person hanging a blank canvas on a wall make the idea any different than if someone else did? What does it prove or mean? Should we even care?

Art and how it should be made or what it is has no definition. Philosophers for centuries have debated this. There are lots of important things to be learned, ideology-wise, from conceptual art, but it is my personal opinion that it requires far less talent and aptitude than the fine arts do and should be in a category all its own. I frown strongly upon most conceptual displays for their inanity and sometimes invasive methods which usually bring to light ideas at the cost of tradition and artisanship. That sounds close-minded as hell, and traditional art is not the only way to "unlock" new ideas, but for me, the insanity of most conceptual pieces completely overshadows the lessons the viewer is supposed to learn.

Free speech is a glorious thing which I hold dear. I wish to not silence these conceptual artists... just to be able to voice my opinion, as well, and say that most of their work is complete and utter bullcrap. :laughing:

Many of the examples in this stamp are conceptual pieces I learned about in my classes. They are intriguing, but simply not my thing. In order:

:bulletblue: Chris Ofili's controversial painting, "The Holy Virgin Mary"
:bulletblue: Guillermo Vargas's exhibition, Eres Lo Que Lee (You Are What You Read)
:bulletblue: John Cage's musical score 4'33"
:bulletblue: Vito Acconci's performance, Seedbed

Keep discussions civil, if you will! Thank you! :)
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DarkDijinArtie89 Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2013  Student General Artist
Really, this is something I actually have to disagree with, given the fact that both music and art are incredibly subjective subjects.

What isn't to say that shitty ass work I put up in my gallery is as some trolls like to say, "Fap Crap" or "Furfag Fetish Shit"? Even if I do have artistic talent of any kind (Which I don't, I just do the dumbass thing of actually working hard to improve myself and letting people criticize me in all the ways they can). Likewise, what isn't to say there is some artistic merit behind those pieces that you mentioned, especially when the average person out there is so stupid and narrow that they need a cinder block to hit them so they can see the bigger picture.

As a music composer type, I had learn about all the various methods of creating music, and yes, we talked about John Cage. The thing is though, without Cage and some of his contemporaries being around, we'd probably never get out of the asinine complexity that is serialism, have video game and electronic music, and of course, my personal favorite, minimalism. We needed the extremists like Cage so people like John Adams, Brain Eno, and Phillip Glass could come out with their still "crazy" although mundane ideas... Because during the time when minimalism first came to rise, many academies did not like the idea of making music less complicated or not using as many motives and features... So those crazies have a point in some way or another.

Likewise, the reason why art "sucks" these days is because most people really get zilch in the understanding of what it means to actually make an art piece of any kind. Likewise, we have had our views on beauty so streamlined into a cliche that we can't honestly see anything else as being able to be as great as to whatever "sells". Does anybody actually try to capture the spectacle of the desert or prairie? No, we are taught that only the forest is beautiful and everything is a wasteland... Did you do a portrait of a fat woman? That's gross! Only skinny white models are pretty! So many boundaries get set up by symbols and stereotypes that it's not even funny... But what happens when you get somebody putting a urinal up on the wall and calling art? An extreme; therefore, if I were to go up to that gallery and put up a landscape painting of the Oklahoma Prairie or a well-down portrait of the fat black woman, people will freak out less about it because I'm clearly not crazy at what I do...

The extremists are the ones who essentially help the people who want to break the rules in some areas have their chance to do so. That's why I support this crazy modern art stuff; it actually gives me the chance to break some rules and stereotypes in order to create my own artwork, even if my artwork still manages to be lame and boring or formula-based in some way...

Heck, just think about what it was like when Jazz music first came about to the general public, or Rock n' Roll... Or how about the first motion pictures and first movies? A lot of people freaked about it, but because of those "extremists" of their time, we wound up with a lot of others getting involved and creating things that mixed in the old and new...
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LaurenIpsum Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2013  Student General Artist
"Process over project? Not for this artist."

This asseveration resumes my view on conceptual art. I know it started as something against "art for art's sake", but ironically they fell in the same category. In my opinion, art is more powerful when it speaks by itself, without being too literal. The thing I hate about conceptual art is its lack of actual process, and most of those artists are living in a bubble. So much bullshit to talk and they actually don't get really involved in it... That's what bugs me, it's almost impossible for me to believe their "speech".

So, in conceptual art, the difference between actual thought about artistic process and an overload of "nonsense that sounds deep" is evident.

I don't know if my point is well explained.
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lycanthropeful Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Even having finished my degree and understanding that much of the best exploration and play that finalizes a great work is process, to me, it's still just that. Exploration and play. A lot of these "conceptual pieces" should be considered something aside from a finished work to me, unless we judge art based solely on if its message is received (regardless of in which form this message comes). Thanks for the insightful comment!
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Just-Jenni Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I agree a WHOLE lot with this...although there is still some conceptual art I do really like and understand, like Yoko Ono's 'Wish Tree' and Damien Hirsts 'For the Love Of God' the modern art examples you posted are what I agree to be a load of absolute CRAP.

It just really bugs me, because the art course I'm doing at the moment really favors this conceptual shit over ALL artistic skill...Just the other day I designed a print for the 'Fashion week' we were doing and the tutor said 'well...I'm impressed by your perfectionist attitude and the slick clean print you've created...but it lacked any depth or concept..'
It REALLY irked me because I just thought...yeah I like the ideas of some concepts but not EVERYTHING NEEDS A FRIKKIN' CONCEPT. It was a design, and a design is what is usually commercial not conceptually artistic or 'deep'

I'm happy the course I'm doing is only a year...I think I'm gonna do an illustration course after for 3 years which looks a lot better than the kind of crap I'm being taught now :|
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lycanthropeful Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Now that I've obtained my BFA in graphic design, I CAN see how important concept really is. In a lot of cases, it's SO important that if you overlook, your design is gonna look like hell and not communicate effectively. Yet as a fine artist as well, I can't separate the craft and the talent portion of the process of creation. I just can't, and when I see conceptual art performances/demonstrations, etc. part of me wants to just shake the person making and ask them if they can actually draw, design, paint, or anything else.

Talent, reproduction, and skill are not the only factors in art. I just somehow wish conceptual art was its own separate body of work, and not mixed in with "traditional" art. To each their own - I'm not fighting to "outlaw" or "get rid of" conceptual art, but I sure don't like the way that it's slowly seeping into curricula everywhere, threatening to overtake the importance of craft and skill. I come from a very print-heavy design program, where the emphasis of concept is definitely THERE, but it comes before the rigorous CREATION process in the overall cycle of making a design from start to finish. You can't have a good end result without a great concept, yet it's my opinion that your end result should be a bit more corporeal, I guess. You should have something to show for. A concept without a "vehicle" or "art to carry its idea," to me, is just a concept, not art.

/soapbox. I very much appreciate your thought-provoking comment. :)
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Just-Jenni Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
AH the word I meant to say really was that the tutor said the idea was too 'literal' like the design was too obvious to understand...:XD: not 'conceptual' in a way to make you think about it for a long time...like you DO need an idea and some kind of message but it doesn't have to be all intensely and deeply thought provoking is more what I meant :o
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Just-Jenni Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
true true, although I think I put across my point of 'concept' more extreme than intended :XD: afterall you do need to at least carry out some sort of idea :)
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DI-FL Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2011  Professional General Artist
Conceptual artists make me want to become one so I can insult my contemporaries.
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lycanthropeful Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Haha, NICE! :highfive:
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appledust Featured By Owner May 11, 2011  Student General Artist
thanks for this. art school made me really hate conceptual art, whereas i could tolerate it to an extent before. i just hate how much they favour it over everything else and how you cant say shit about it, whereas you can rag on about the classical masters or -god forbid- people with ARTISTIC SKILL as much as youd like. +fav for sure
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lycanthropeful Featured By Owner May 11, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks so much! That means a lot ;)
Looking at your gallery I think you've definitely got the "artistic skill," so you can tell conceptual 'artists' to fuck off, I'd say.
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appledust Featured By Owner May 12, 2011  Student General Artist
;)
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iris-inside-out Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2010  Hobbyist Writer
I'm glad people like you can actually tell what's art and what's mere bull****...I can believe a guy actually sitting down for four minutes and a half is considered art...I mean, I can see his point, but that's not art! It makes any musician cry out of misery. And a guy masturbating? I got nothing to say about that...
It's good some people keep having a true sense of art and try to take it back to where it should be.
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lycanthropeful Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Art will always be one of those debatable things. Who is to say what is art and what isn't?

Me, that's who! I don't consider any of that crap art. Yes, it's sending a message, but there are a lot of other things that "send messages" which aren't art. Total crap. Thanks for the support. :)
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bubuart Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2010  Student Traditional Artist
in english : the piano guy - silence - how important is for us our senses, how can you listen to your favorite song today if you ramnae deaf?

"The Holy Virgin Mary"- human race has become ignoran, sense of brotherhood and compassion is gone, and faith in GOOD became mockery

Eres Lo Que Lee (You Are What You Read) - animals are skinned for their fur, many species face extinction, human race is steadily growing demand increasingly more land while the animals remain without homes and hunting grounds

Seedbed - this man really exaggerate ..it is true that narcissism and superficiality are the agenda. promote post whores and idiots as celebrities, and moral values are forgotten ..... They were deprived of the spirit inside. Society teaches us to get a well paid job to have a big house and an expensive car, for having the most beautiful women in bed ........... (Sex, food, self-preservation=basic instincts ) so in our 3,000 $ suit we are not just some monkeys?

not trying to contradict you, and I am glad to see that there are still smart people in this world

"Art is a lie that makes us better understand the Truth" Salvador Dalli
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lycanthropeful Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
While I understand this is the message being sent from many of these works, I almost wish these performances weren't considered "art." To me they are so far removed from the traditional realm (and even contemporary realm) of art that involves mark-making and observation that they shouldn't be in the same category.
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bubuart Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2010  Student Traditional Artist
arta conceptuala se foloseste de sentimente si de starea pe care privitorul o are pt. a se exprima (frica, dezgust, erotism, dragoste,forta, pasiune, extaz, agonie, .... etc.) Dar acasta stare trebue creata pt ascoate in evidenta ideea, arta in general trebuie sa traiasca prin ochii privitorului. Dar nu poti creea ceva si sa omiti ideea. Arta conceptuala este extrem de simpla si de complicata in acelasi timp. Si acest gen de arta atrage interes tocmai prin parerile controversate pe care le exprima.
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Lolita-Tigress Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2010
...the first one
I lol'd
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shadowwolf9 Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2010
See, now when I think of conceptual art, the first thing that comes to mind is sketches displaying ideas for stuff like characters, costumes, designs, etc. You know, character concepts and such. This stuff isn't what I thought you were talking about at fist, and i got very confused... I kind of label this sort of stuff as "modern art bullshit."

The guy at the piano actually made me a little angry, to be honest. Like seriously, "I have nothing to say, and I'm saying it" is just a bullshit way of saying "I can't play the piano, but I'm still getting more credit that a lot of people who can because I'm an 'artist' :dummy:" If you have nothing to say, the don't sit down at the piano in the first place you 'tard!

Oh, and the paper and poop collage looks almost exactly like an art project I did in kindergarten! XD If only I'd been "discovered" back then, I could have been famous!
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lycanthropeful Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
What I always found interesting is that John Cage is actually a talented pianist... I actually enjoy quite a few of his more "normal" pieces of work. Just like Picasso was a very talented highly realistic painter, but instead chose to make his works look like, in my opinion, preschool fingerpaintings. The theories behind why were what were important to art history, but still.

Yeah, "4'33"" gets me a bit riled up, too, especially as a musician. For some guy to go in and basically make a mockery of the skill required to actually perform a symphony on a baby grand just seems cruel. Of course, things would be a bit more boring if people didn't pull stunts like this, which I fully acknowledge, but it's the fact that most people seem to stick this in the same category as "art" really bothers me.

Ahh, see? I would have been famous a long time ago, too! :no:
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shadowwolf9 Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2010
Huh. I didn't know he was a legit piano player. That makes me a little less irate, but still...
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Becca-nin Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2010
This reminds me of a story my mothers friend told me.

Her friends daughter had made a butterfly image at school, and due to the colour scheme she framed and hung it on the wall, when questioned by someone she went on a whim and said
"Oh it's by an up and coming new artist!" and the first person believed her so she told anyone who asked that line. Many years later she was drunk and revealed the truth, not a single person believed her daughter was capable of such 'art'.

Interesting what happens no?
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lycanthropeful Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
See, if you say a 4 year old did it, it can't be art, but if someone who is "an artist" does it, it's okay. That's kind of bothersome. :shrug:
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Becca-nin Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2010
*nods* it is. And some of the stuff I've seen sold for thousands of pounds/dollars/ect that is so easily recreated by anyone with a few coloured paints seems...well just bizarre to me.
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AshenArtifice Featured By Owner May 29, 2010  Professional General Artist
My sentiments exactly. How hard is it really to crap in a can (like Piero Manzoni)? Or spray-paint expletives onto a wooden board and sit it upside down in a gallery (like Dan Colens)?

And yet, this is what my art college is teaching us as being "good art".

Do you mind if I use this stamp? It is exactly the kind of thing I need for my "Start Teaching Real Art" Protest.
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lycanthropeful Featured By Owner May 30, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
The courses that focused on conceptual art I've moved on from, but then again, I'm studying art at a liberal arts college, not an art-only institution, so it was bound to come up, haha.

Absolutely yes! Please use this to spread the word if you're so inclined. I'm flattered. I'd be interested to know how this project goes! A previous commenter, ~Mebob, has a deviation along those same lines. I'm not sure if ~Mebob is starting a project on it either, but you might want to check out that deviation.

Thank you so much! =D
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AshenArtifice Featured By Owner May 30, 2010  Professional General Artist
I go to the same art college as Mebob. He was the one that came up with the protest idea originally.

Small world, isn't it?
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lycanthropeful Featured By Owner May 31, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Haha! That makes it even greater!

Unfortunately, though, that means the program you're going through probably is annoying enough to affect both of you, right? At least you two are speaking out. I know I was a little less than impressed with some of my teachers/TAs when I had to go through the conceptual art classes. I definitely noted it. :roll:
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Mebob Featured By Owner May 8, 2010  Professional Photographer
Thank you for making the stamp!

I am currently studying at the most prestigious art school in my country. I am only on my second term in the four year course, and have already been appalled by the lack of skill by some students.

They take god-awful photo's, showing no skill what-so-ever and make up some bullshit meaning behind it.

Anyone can take an out-of-focus image and say it represents this and that.

It seems that the direction of some of the lecturers at the college is to substitute an artists skill for the meaning.

Something I posted in response to conceptual art you might find interesting, if not the poster itself, then theres a link to a youtube video of Charles Thomson slamming conceptual art you might find amusing :P
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Thanks
-Aaron
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lycanthropeful Featured By Owner May 8, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
You are quite welcome!

Good for you! That's terrific. I only hope that they're teaching you to become a great technical artist. Not that creative thinking isn't important, but I personally hold the opinion that technical skill is paramount to other factors.

I will definitely check out that video once I download the plug-in I need to watch it! the deviation itself seems to say it all... thanks for the support and the interesting link! =D
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Mebob Featured By Owner May 8, 2010  Professional Photographer
No problem ^_^

The Uni has three core subjects everyone has to take, one focuses on developing your creative (And conceptual) skill, and the other focuses on technical skill.

They claim to focus equally both on conceptual and skill, but the tendency seems to be more towards the conceptual art.

Owell, keep up your opposition to conceptual art! :)
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KinkyBootz Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Hmm. I'm on a Fine Art degree surrounded by conceptual artists, I might even consider myself one. Conceptual art is mostly about a thought process, it's about ideas, making people think and breaking boundaries. And concepts haha. In my opinion it is tradition and artisanship that kills interesting art, not the other way round. Obviously there is still thought and meaning behind these performance artists you mention, and a lot of conceptual artists could make traditional art if they wanted to. They choose not to. Look at Picasso if you want a famous reference, he could already paint like a god when he was about 12 and his natural progression was to test people's beliefs of 'what art is' and draw like a child. All the greatest artists tested conventions, sometimes 'talent' is not as important as taking risks and fresh ideas.

Sorry, that turned into a bit of a rant! For the record I had exactly the same opinion as you about 3 years ago.
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lycanthropeful Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Rants are completely fine with me - I know I'm not in the majority here when it comes to this opinion (at least in the context of my university's art program), so you're welcome to disagree!

It's just something bothers me, conceptual art... like I don't want to lump it in the same category as the masterpieces of Leonardo da Vinci or Jan van Eyck, but I want to give it a different kind of credit all on its own, in a completely different way. To me there's a difference between the ratio of "seeing" and "doing," that meaning conceptual art requires the viewer to "do" (think) and visual arts require you to "see" more so than "think," necessarily.

My views on this have already gotten a bit more liberal since being exposed to conceptual art, and I'm only a college sophomore. It really depends on the case.
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KinkyBootz Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Your right, it does depend on the case. A lot of conceptual art is utter crap, but exactly the same goes for traditional art. Your views will naturally change the more you experience contemporary art, get out and see some cutting edge galleries, DA does for art what Twilight does for literature.

I can see your point, obviously there is a world of difference between a Leonardo and a piece from today, but times do change and it's unrealistic to put the past on a pedestal just because it's so established. Art has changed massively in recent decades and if you're serious about becoming an artist, be aware that conceptual art is considered to be the norm in contemporary galleries. Nobody views something that is visually decorative and beautiful the same as something that requires the viewer to think, I suppose it is a matter of taste.

Good luck with your art, I hope I was being helpful. :)
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lycanthropeful Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, as much as I love illustrative art, I'm studying to get a BFA in graphic design. That opens up a whole 'nother can of worms, as far as the "purpose" of art goes. I agree with you about dA, though, haha... I've seen SO many impressive pieces of art here, but ConceptArt trumps it at first glance. I'm not good enough to move into somewhere like that just yet.

Those two I used as an example are just antiquated ones, sure, and I love a whole variety of art, contemporary or otherwise. It's just that I think so many artists are getting more for doing less: what's the say that one person shouldn't get famous for "making viewers think" one thing when so many people have had that idea before? Conceptual art just annoys me, but that doesn't mean it's not legitimate in its own right.

And yes, thank you for the insight. ;)
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KinkyBootz Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Aha, if you're doing Graphic Design it's a whole different kettle of fish! I suppose it is fine to hate conceptual art then, I just thought you were doing Fine Art and felt a little confused! XD
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lycanthropeful Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
LOL, those two are pretty much polar opposites! At my school, however, they require freshmen to take a shitload of foundational classes of all types, plus outside-your-desired-major studio classes, since this makes us (according to curriculum :bucktooth:) well-rounded artists. Then you apply for your concentration your sophomore year, which is what I will be doing in May. So, I've had to put up with some less than favorable ideas, but I'm thankful I've been exposed to them. ;)
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TekilaSuRi Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2010
Uhm the link about the dog being tied up states that the dog was fed and escaped after one day.
Did you actually read that one?

I don't think the dog-thing is right.
And I do agree with you that a one-colored canvas or something like that...really has nothing to do with art.
I mean art does have to do something with talent.
The interesting thing about art is that you express yourself in some way. You want to TELL something to the public.
Be it either about yourself, about life or about the public itself.

The dog is a nice example.
The sentence on the sign nearby the dog was "You are what you read"
implying that the people reading about a dog- already close to death by starvation- tied up in a gallery would make people get really outraged about it.
But if they had seen the very same dog on the streets, where it originally came from, most of them wouldn't have cared about it.
And that was the whole message about the whole thing.
But it did have a message while a blank canvas or something like that...doesn't have a message for me oO;

Again I don't think the dog-art went the right way.
But well....the message wasn't that wrong at all.
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lycanthropeful Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Nah, I know the dog was okay in the whole matter, but it's the premise itself that isn't art to me. Would it still be art if we shackled a human being to the wall? People would go crazy because that, to most people, is ethically wrong for display purposes only. Why should it be any different with a dog, especially when the point of the "art" itself is only to stir up controversy? I see no beauty or talent in it all. It's a ploy to "get people to think." The message is great, but I feel like the vehicle itself, a.k.a tying a dog to a wall, wasn't appropriate, nor does it deserve the title of "art."

I know that you and I both understand what the purpose of the dog art was/is, but does that make it art? I just think that conceptual art should be in a category separate from art, almost, because it doesn't do justice to traditional artists. It's hard to separate out "ideas" from "talent" sometimes. Just because a painting is photorealistic or very well done doesn't make it good art, but I think it takes a hell of a lot more effort and talent than shackling a dog to a wall or videotaping yourself masturbating.
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TekilaSuRi Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2010
You're totally right.
I said it before: The artist used the wrong way to give the right message.
And right because of that it is not art anymore.
I just used the dog-example to show what I think art should do
(the message-part of it).
Couldn't think about a better one, sorry if that lead to some missunderstanding.

And about conceptual art...it depends on WHAT the artists does.
If at least some effort stands behind it along with a good idea, then yes maybe it is art.
I just don't accept stuff like the dog or the blank canvas as art.
Cause something EVERYONE can do..can't be art in my opinion.
And I'm not sure but I think we have a pretty similiar attitude about that?
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FiniteLuv Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2010  Student General Artist
.. all of these are weird.. but I would've at least fed the damned dog..

that's awful the people let him sit there like that, regardless of screwing up the "art".
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lycanthropeful Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Maybe that was the "intention" of the piece, for the viewer to decide whether or not to take care of the dog. Who really knows or cares? That "artist" is an idiot.
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FiniteLuv Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2010  Student General Artist
they are.. someone should tie them to a wall in a glass case.. with no air.
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spirit-of-the-fire Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2010
Sometimes... I really, really hate conceptual "artists."

Some conceptual stuff is fine, but sometimes I just want to stab the "artist."

How is it fair, in ANY sense of the word, for some guy to hang a blank canvas on a gallery wall and make thousands of dollars and be famous world-wide in the art community, while I put hours and hours of work into a single piece and can't sell one god damn $10 print of it!

I'm usually the one advocating that there is no definition of art, but I draw the line at pure and simple laziness.
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lycanthropeful Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
This idea plagues me just about every day as a sophomore art major. Why couldn't I have thought of something so stupid and made gazillions of dollars off of it? Some people will argue hanging a blank canvas on a wall isn't "stupid," and that it communicates some idea, but honestly, I think it's nearly fraudulent passing it off as a form of visual art.
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prosaix Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2010
Haha that's a funny stamp, with a message too... :thumbsup:
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lycanthropeful Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you! ;)
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J-Works Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2010  Professional Filmographer
I don't know, the guy who convinces people that masturbating under a floor is something to be admired has to be a genius :lol:
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lycanthropeful Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, his efforts are probably more "art" than the actual "art" itself... :XD:
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J-Works Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2010  Professional Filmographer
:XD: too bad no one sealed him under there
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